Subject	HP ratings are net with intake and exhaust, W/O trans
Posted by	SooperZ95 on September 20, 2004 at 10:06 PM
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In Reply To	I like you, you are one of my favorite newbs ever :) posted by Spee on September 20, 2004 at 04:52 PM
Message	Todays cars are rated at the flywheel, and do not take into consideration drivetrain. When tested they are fitted with production exhaust and intakes however. Note, that in the past, like 60's muscle cars, HP was rated 'gross'; at the flywheel but without exhaust or OEM intakes. Hence 300HP today, is worth more than 300HP from the 60's. ; )
Follow Ups	This is going to cause a riot but.... - Payce 16:27:03 09/20/04 the fastest z's are Usually Automatics..use search - TWINTURBONICK 16:29:15 09/20/04 This is true, but it's a sports car... - aggiez32 16:31:36 09/20/04 it just comes down to personal preference. (n/m) - TWINTURBONICK 16:42:33 09/20/04 They have a higher probability to yield a faster 1/4 mile. (n/m) - T0M 16:33:04 09/20/04 ...and so? (n/m) - YugoBernie (NoVA) 16:35:34 09/20/04 and how many of us drive on the street 1/4 mile at a time (n/m) - got rice? 16:49:59 09/20/04 "I live my life a 1/4 mile at a time" (n/m) - Unluky (MO) 17:05:57 09/20/04 Thanks for saying it :) (n/m) - aggiez32 19:09:00 09/20/04 true, but for those 10 seconds or less you're free man! =) (n/m) - outkaZTT 17:06:09 09/20/04 what's your point? (n/m) - Spee 16:52:42 09/20/04 my TT will smoke yours from one red light to the next ;) (n/m) - TWINTURBONICK 17:18:23 09/20/04 Re: my TT will smoke yours from one red light to the next ;) - Spee 20:01:32 09/20/04 ass hat. (n/m) - TWINTURBONICK 23:57:08 09/20/04 Quicker, not faster. Two different things. (n/m) - Arnel@Z32racing.com 16:54:30 09/20/04 VERY true! - SeedyROM 17:02:16 09/20/04 I'm quicker than most in the 1/4 mile at similar HP. >> - Arnel@Z32racing.com 17:07:59 09/20/04 Good explanation! (n/m) - ZXtaZTT 13:28:53 09/21/04 Nah, not necessarily. - KILLR300ZX 17:06:33 09/20/04 Doesn't Greg D have a 10 sec auto? - SooperZ95 21:54:58 09/20/04 Now that's a reason to get one, lol :( (n/m) - ZBlacktt 17:44:27 09/20/04 tired of the Supra forum??? :oP - rave 18:18:49 09/20/04 Re: tired of the Supra forum??? :oP - aliaZ (broken in) 19:06:15 09/20/04 anybody ask you? - ZBlacktt 19:08:19 09/20/04 it doesn't matter - aliaZ (broken in) 19:12:08 09/20/04 Yes, it does - ZBlacktt 19:20:30 09/20/04 how ironic - aliaZ (broken in) 20:38:43 09/20/04 ok, last one :) - ZBlacktt 21:38:57 09/20/04 Re: ok, last one :) - aliaZ (broken in) 22:04:36 09/20/04 Thank you Sir Negative Creep. (n/m) - Technomancer 09:59:37 09/21/04 you're a strange one - aliaZ (broken in) 12:27:09 09/21/04 Nope, lol :) - ZBlacktt 19:18:25 09/20/04 true true... however I have learned alot about my Z's here.. - rave 19:27:32 09/20/04 You are correct, indeed. - ZBlacktt 19:35:28 09/20/04 yawn - aliaZ (broken in) 21:43:47 09/20/04 you don't speak for everyone here - aliaZ (broken in) 21:40:13 09/20/04 Of course I dont speak for every one.. just myself... - rave 23:18:15 09/20/04 no - aliaZ (broken in) 07:51:12 09/21/04 Likewise noob class of 2000 - ZBlacktt 02:45:12 09/21/04 unlike you, I'm not here to win a popularity contest - aliaZ (broken in) 08:13:32 09/21/04 I expected this type of reply. Thanks for the good times. - ZBlacktt 11:18:39 09/21/04 me too... - Spee 20:02:16 09/20/04 LOL, Home Depot how's it going :) - ZBlacktt 21:22:33 09/20/04 cool (n/m) - Spee 22:17:53 09/20/04 don't be afraid of the search. it won't hurt you. (n/m) - T(Seattle) 16:30:13 09/20/04 First of all - ZXRider 16:31:06 09/20/04 how is a supra more of a sports cars than the Z32? - T(Seattle) 16:34:23 09/20/04 I have looked into this for a long time - ZXRider 16:38:31 09/20/04 Oh really? What sort of "looking" have you done? (n/m) - CaptK(ATL) 17:07:17 09/20/04 Stage III+ = Stock Supra? ahhhh you have an NA Z... - TheTwinZ (Peru) 17:11:05 09/20/04 Yup lol i should've kept my mouth shut - ZXRider 17:13:15 09/20/04 No worries ;) - TheTwinZ (Peru) 17:24:02 09/20/04 keep in mind this IS a Z32 forum... I DOUBT there is any - Scotts94z32 18:28:41 09/20/04 there is some....... (n/m) - Initial Z 01:28:55 09/21/04 Supras are heavier than the Z32 (n/m) - JConceptZion (I hate cats) 17:20:58 09/20/04 your a little off,according to edmunds - Z_animal 17:47:54 09/20/04 Potential for the Supra is greater off OEM because size. - ZBlacktt 18:03:27 09/20/04 *yawn* (n/m) - aliaZ (broken in) 19:13:23 09/20/04 what your profile? - ZBlacktt 19:29:40 09/20/04 weak - aliaZ (broken in) 20:43:32 09/20/04 Tough guy behind the keyboard, watch out! (n/m) - ZBlacktt 21:13:01 09/20/04 I'm wondering, is your dipshittiness genetic - RSR 20:48:01 09/20/04 Who's the wife? You or him? (n/m) - ZBlacktt 21:13:54 09/20/04 What color is the sky in your world? (n/m) - Spee 22:22:35 09/20/04 His favorite Supra color I'm sure.... (n/m) - RSR 06:39:12 09/21/04 so a Z weighs less than some Lambos...is it more of a sports - dilly yo 23:54:06 09/20/04 Supras aren't pure sports cars either! they are both GT cars - TWINTURBONICK 16:35:39 09/20/04 i don't have a TT...so your right (n/m) - ZXRider 16:40:52 09/20/04 I'm sorry I Yelled : ) (n/m) - TWINTURBONICK 19:06:47 09/20/04 lol - Ravin 16:37:42 09/20/04 ppppsssssttttttttt >>> - Scotts94z32 16:40:43 09/20/04 Than where i got my info gave me bullcrap (n/m) - ZXRider 16:41:41 09/20/04 hence why I gave a source.. ;) (n/m) - Scotts94z32 16:44:37 09/20/04 I hate how the real sports car (aka: supra) has 4 seats - kryptonite729 16:46:30 09/20/04 lol (n/m) - aliaZ (broken in) 16:48:37 09/20/04 LOL (n/m) - Spee 16:56:13 09/20/04 Supras are just as fat as we are. Go for an FD RX-7 instead. (n/m) - Arnel@Z32racing.com 16:56:56 09/20/04 2nd (n/m) - dogpile 19:50:02 09/20/04 Where's your Green N? - TheTwinZ (Peru) 17:03:21 09/20/04 haha learned my lessong today. - ZXRider 17:24:21 09/20/04 Is OK answering when you have an NA lol... - TheTwinZ (Peru) 17:32:14 09/20/04 Thanks for the inspiration =D (n/m) - ZXRider 17:40:12 09/20/04 wow. (n/m) - Marshall 17:06:08 09/20/04 As if there wasn't enough of a riot, you just had to go and - hoss 17:07:44 09/20/04 2nd (n/m) - tommunist 22:15:06 09/20/04 yeah, what ^^they^^ said (n/m) - hey GotBo0st 19:47:05 09/20/04 The Supra is less of a pure sports car for one simple fact, - dlaw300z(Austin) 20:11:11 09/20/04 Yeah, just like those 911 series Porsches, lame (n/m) - Barry'Z(NJ) 20:20:46 09/20/04 those arent back seats, they are two damn pads with - Tissan 20:42:38 09/20/04 Actually they are perfect for their intended purpose, - Barry'Z(NJ) 21:04:31 09/20/04 I only have one leg - it's my only option. (n/m) - Kenny 16:32:43 09/20/04 Sometimes autos have more to them than what meets the eye ;) - RAGTPZ(OH) 16:35:39 09/20/04 I have! (n/m) - MickieMagik(oh) 16:37:10 09/20/04 They can be scary fast :) - SeedyROM 16:50:10 09/20/04 ask SeedyRom (aka posterchild for autos) :) (n/m) - Guapo 16:35:57 09/20/04 True, but I don't push them on people. I love my car - SeedyROM 16:47:37 09/20/04 :) - Guapo 16:53:37 09/20/04 Re: :) - SeedyROM 16:58:31 09/20/04 LOL (n/m) - TheTwinZ (Peru) 17:14:14 09/20/04 swap ;) (n/m) - outkaZTT 17:08:20 09/20/04 I have no doubt that they are fast... - Payce 16:42:31 09/20/04 No worries. Sounds like you already know the answer then :) - SeedyROM 16:53:13 09/20/04 Personally I prefer a road course to a drag strip any day> - SUPRMANZ 16:43:19 09/20/04 SeedyROM, That was a great message - Payce 16:55:48 09/20/04 Thanks man. Yeah, I couldn't have an auto up there - SeedyROM 17:00:42 09/20/04 The Z is a GT car, not a sports car technically - SeedyROM 16:46:26 09/20/04 I like you, you are one of my favorite newbs ever :) - Spee 16:52:11 09/20/04 What about the cams/turbos? (n/m) - xtensive 16:53:32 09/20/04 yeah, those too :) (n/m) - Spee 16:57:52 09/20/04 Well no one ever said you were practical :) - SeedyROM 16:57:46 09/20/04 hell, I never claimed to be practical myself :) - Spee 17:02:59 09/20/04 what if - ZXRider 16:58:21 09/20/04 yes - Spee 17:05:36 09/20/04 which really sucks - xtensive 17:47:55 09/20/04 good luck (n/m) - ZXRider 17:49:30 09/20/04 Now what if NA AT converts to MT? - ZXRider 17:54:22 09/20/04 2nd, auto's shouldn't even exist. (n/m) - zboost 17:50:53 09/20/04 2nd (n/m) - Southern_Z [IL] 20:14:52 09/20/04 HP ratings are net with intake and exhaust, W/O trans - SooperZ95 22:06:27 09/20/04 what do muscle cars have to do with auto TT's having less - Guapo 22:21:44 09/20/04 Nothing at all, I just threw that in as a bonus. - SooperZ95 22:38:07 09/20/04 cool! (n/m) - Guapo 22:47:18 09/20/04 correct... - Spee 22:25:00 09/20/04 I have to agree. I'm just not a fan of automatics. - Agent X 16:53:49 09/20/04 ME! I just spent 3,000 to have mine built to hold 600 RWHP (n/m) - rave 17:01:34 09/20/04 *points and laughs* (n/m) - Spee 17:06:18 09/20/04 looking in a mirror spence? :oP (n/m) - rave 17:20:23 09/20/04 Auto's have 20bhp less because - fosker3 17:09:11 09/20/04 It's just the compressor housing that's smaller - KILLR300ZX 17:19:11 09/20/04 Turbine housing A/R is smaller - Chip(GMS Racing) 18:46:22 09/20/04 I'm OK with the tt's but if it's a automatic N/A... - Blu Z 17:09:19 09/20/04 *shrug* - punkz (Dallas) 17:43:28 09/20/04 TT auto is for lazy people j/k :P (n/m) - drivebyz300 17:51:44 09/20/04 Long live the 5 speed!!! (n/m) - Fuzznutz 18:08:05 09/20/04 Auto's are for people with dissabilities. (n/m) - zboost 18:28:08 09/20/04 LOL... oh the irony in your response... ;-) - Scotts94z32 18:32:03 09/20/04 ROFLOL (n/m) - zspec1 19:29:33 09/20/04 How did I get this far through life before TT.net? You - zspec1 19:31:32 09/20/04 Oh no he didn't! (n/m) - Arnel@Z32racing.com 18:40:00 09/20/04 LOL (n/m) - stockplayerz (NYC) 11:42:48 09/21/04 Worst Z32 related decision I ever made was to get auto. (n/m) - SooperZ95 22:08:40 09/20/04 Holy Christ this is a long thread (n/m) - sfpearl300z (South Florida) 22:33:52 09/20/04 Re: Holy Christ this is a long thread - dvlhntr 22:53:04 09/20/04 Re: Re: Holy Christ this is a long thread - Payce 00:13:02 09/21/04 5rd (n/m) - SaipanZ(MP) 00:57:44 09/21/04 Lets make it longer;D (n/m) - ChazZ 02:18:19 09/21/04 ha, i got the last line on the page (n/m) - 2ch+ad2 14:18:26 09/21/04
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